Since I have to respond to Michael via this forum, here's some thoughts ...
I certainly respect Janie as well, and I'm sure she knows that. You are most fortunate to have someone of her ability leading your support forum.
However, I'm not sure I should be categorized as one of the "pointing a damning finger at everyone else who chooses to distribute a toolbar" people.
I'm not sure what part of my post was full of rumor or mis-information.
Toolbars are indeed a "hot" topic in the spyware fighting community, and the companies who add them without the downloader's knowledge or acceptance deservedly get their feet held to the fire ... as do those who bundle them and tick the "accept" box for you as the default option (ie: ZoneAlarm's SpyBlocker, the subject of many many threads on various security forums). â€˜Opt In by defaultâ€™ toolbars are very troubling IMO. The Spy Sweeper installer had the Ask Toolbar and Search Assistant pre-checked as an opt-in last fall, and you know the firestorm that erupted, leading to many sites removing the software from public view or discontinuing updates posts.
To quote IAMSKINZ from another time and place:
"I truely believe that all here know that Lavasoft was formed for one reason and one reason only.
It was a mans desire to provide the means for all to use the internet and not be taken over by malicious software, no matter who you are."
Anyone who has been around a while knows that this man IAMSKINZ is referring to is urizen. They also know that as a former "super moderator" of the LS support forum, I had joined his fight, sharing a common vision.
I posted a polite inquiry here on this forum to urizen, a post that was removed without the courtesy of an explanation, at least until now. It's your forum, and it is certainly your right to run it any way that you like.