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Hello all. is Lavasoft EVER going to release Ad-Aware for the 64 bit version of Vista. I mean for crying out loud , Vista 64 has been out for a long time now. Lavasoft missed the boat by LONG shot even with the 32 bit version ! Please tell us so we can move on to another product if necessary ???

 

Disgusted

 

TDK

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Hi TDK,

 

The software upgrade to provide Vista-64 support is due out shortly.

 

I will ask the Devs what the current time-frame is.

 

Regards,

 

Spike

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Hi TDK,

 

The software upgrade to provide Vista-64 support is due out shortly.

 

This is the same line that we have been getting for months. Why can't we get a straight answer on when it will be available?

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Hey Guys,

 

If I knew, I'd tell you - I have asked the question and am awaiting a response.

 

Believe me, once I get the word, I'll be posting all over the forums, just to avoid repetitive threads like this :)

 

No offense, but I can only post facts as I am given them. I'll ask again, just to hurry them along...

 

Regards,

 

Spike

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Hey Guys,

 

If I knew, I'd tell you - I have asked the question and am awaiting a response.

 

Believe me, once I get the word, I'll be posting all over the forums, just to avoid repetitive threads like this ;)

 

No offense, but I can only post facts as I am given them. I'll ask again, just to hurry them along...

 

Regards,

 

Spike

 

Spike, I do hope you can understand why people are getting a bit peed off at the moment...Vista 64bit has been out since NOVEMBER 2006. its now nearly MARCH 2008 :) and still nothing for 64bit vista not even a beta that we can test or anything.

 

and also every time when some1 asks for Vista 64bit support we get the same answer that its "under development", then to top it all off the version that did work okay with vista 64bit (adware SE) has been stopped.

 

dont see a logic there and it has stopped me from buying nor recommending the software to friends nor colleagues.

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Hi levig,

 

Yes, I fully appreciate the frustrations of Vista-64 users - I rather think that the Devs are getting a bit tired of my repeated requests for an ETA on your behalf. Still no firm date available, however I understand that good progress is being made.

 

Vista 64bit has been out since NOVEMBER 2006. its now nearly MARCH 2008

AAW 2007 itself has only been out since mid-2007. That is longer than the optimum time for full OS support, however, cast your mind back a few months - how long since you managed to get Vista (either 32 or 64) to interact as one would wish with all of your peripherals (ie: fully operable drivers etc), let alone all of your apps?

 

I have so many friends and family members who have reverted back to XP (again, either 32 or 64 bit) until they see what progress the upcoming Vista SP1 will deliver.

 

I am not attacking MS any more than I wish to be seen an apologist for AAW 2007. When creating a brand new version from scratch, with all of today's highly-evolved threats, there simply isn't a quick fix. In the interim, I will continue to volunteer my free time to assist users to make the switch to AAW 2007.

 

Regards,

 

Spike

 

PS: I have sent you a PM - please check your Private Messages at the top right of the forum.

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Hi levig,

 

Yes, I fully appreciate the frustrations of Vista-64 users - I rather think that the Devs are getting a bit tired of my repeated requests for an ETA on your behalf. Still no firm date available, however I understand that good progress is being made.

AAW 2007 itself has only been out since mid-2007. That is longer than the optimum time for full OS support, however, cast your mind back a few months - how long since you managed to get Vista (either 32 or 64) to interact as one would wish with all of your peripherals (ie: fully operable drivers etc), let alone all of your apps?

/snip

 

I know that as well, I was part of the beta testing aaw2007, but at that stage I was only running vista 32bit. I have a funny feeling that the devs will bring it out when SP1 is released for vista as it has lowered some of the security settings a tiny bit. ^_^

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Not sure if it has any technical dependency to Vista SP1; and this is due for these days. I have a paid version of Ad-Aware and the license is ticking, also I can't use it on 64 bit. Is Lavasoft giving me my money back or do they plan to exceed it? :D

Edited by ByHans

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Hello ByHans,

 

The system requirements are well-signposted on the LS website. That said:

 

I have a paid version of Ad-Aware and the license is ticking, also I can't use it on 64 bit. Is Lavasoft giving me my money back or do they plan to exceed it?

 

That is something that you would have to ask LS Support - we volunteers have no access to private license details here on the open forum.

 

Regards,

 

Spike

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I can understand your concerns with the availability of 64-bit Vista support. To help put this in context Microsoft's own Baseline Security Analyzer is not due to be Vista ready until second quarter 2008.

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Update as we now have an ETA for 64bit users. The new version of Ad-Aware due out in May will be 64bit compatible. :D

 

That's excellent news! But be warned --- we Vista 64 users will be storming the office with torches and pitchforks if the upgrade doesn't happen ... :)

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Update as we now have an ETA for 64bit users. The new version of Ad-Aware due out in May will be 64bit compatible. :)

 

 

If you notice, the statement does not say which 64 bit OS they are going to support.

 

I am wondering if it is going to be Vista, XP, Server 2003, Server 2008, or Server XP.

 

Next I am wondering if the new Lavasoft is going to work on the new service packs or old.. such as Server 2003 SP 1 or SP 2, XP SP 2 or Sp 3, or Vista Stock or Vista SP 1...

 

none of this information is being given, so just saying 64 bit support means nothing at this point in time.

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Vista 64 bit (it's the topic title)

 

I do not know about the other operating systems at this time. I'm sure that will be released as the new version gets close to final release.

 

I do not understand your question about service packs. Software doesn't generally need to be rewritten for patches on the operating system unless they inadvertently break it somehow and then a fix would need to be looked at, but in my recollection I can't recall any service packs that broke the Lavasoft software programs.

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Vista 64 bit (it's the topic title)

 

I do not know about the other operating systems at this time. I'm sure that will be released as the new version gets close to final release.

 

I do not understand your question about service packs. Software doesn't generally need to be rewritten for patches on the operating system unless they inadvertently break it somehow and then a fix would need to be looked at, but in my recollection I can't recall any service packs that broke the Lavasoft software programs.

 

 

With Vista, there were over 128 hotfixes in the service package from broken controls in Vista's initial release..

 

in Vista 64 bit the full service package is a 734 Mb download.. and has almost 200 hotfixes and reworked components..

 

since the release of the service package, there have been 6 hotfixes put out on the hotfix page at the Vista home site that are not part of the Automatic Updates..

 

now if Ad-Aware 2007 /2008 is being developed for Vista 64 OOB, then the service package may break it.. if Ad-Aware 2007 / 2008 is being designed for Vista SP 1 64 bit, then people who don't upgrade to Vista Service Pack 1 may experience problems because the software is missing almost 200 Hotfixes for Windows primary controls, including software instillation and memory leaks and unrecognized memory that may be installed on the system..

 

any of these will effect how Ad-Aware works..

 

Also, if Ad-Aware does not have Administrator control when operating, it will be unable to remove files from the Program Files (x86) folder as well as the Windows directory..

 

People can run it as administrator, but even then it may not have full control inless it ties directly into Vista's Security Center AND it has Microsoft's Digital Certification and Vista time stamping incorporated into the EXE's engine...

 

this is a problem we ran into making service packs for the Starfleet Command Games... the entire package has to be built 2 times for Vista..

 

1 for non SP 1 and 1 for SP 1 so that it will work correctly on both systems due to the service package hotfixes..

 

the other thing we have to circumvent is the security in Vista when the User Account Control is enabled.. with UAC off, there is no security issue or problems with software working as intended (with exception of a few programs like Ad-Aware 2007 and Dominion Wars), but with UAC turned on.. there is a high chance that Ad-Aware will recognize a problem file in Vista, but will be unable to remove it because the security levels may not be properly enabled.. the security levels will have to be Full for Admin, Full for User and Full for system for it to be able to remove files, and even then the Windows directory has another level of security.. DEP

 

Data Execution Prevention is another service that Ad-Aware 2007 /2008 will need to overcome in order to change or remove files in the Windows Directory...

 

Spybot S&D has Microsoft's Digital Tag which allows it to integrate into the Security Center of Vista and gives it full access to all directories..

 

However Spybot S&D was not able to work correctly in Vista 64 bit systems with SP 1 not installed.. it was forced to abandon removal of files and invalid registry entries, thus only removing about 75% of items it found.. in Vista SP 1, S&D works correctly under the same build of the program..

 

It is broken in non SP 1 Vista 64 systems.. works perfectly in Vista 64 SP 1 systems..

 

That is why I brought up the question of which Vista 64 version it is being designed for.. SP 1 or non SP 1 or both..

Edited by Pestalence_XC

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If the issue has not already come up in the testing, I'm sure it will before it makes it to final release (It is still in Beta - soon to be going into Public Beta).

 

If you are interesting in Beta application testing, the sign up is here:

http://www.lavasoft.com/support/securityce...pplications.php

 

And then there will also be a Beta community forum (opening soon) where Beta testers will be able to have a discussion area to discuss the new release

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Is there a mailing list/notification system that you can get put on for an update when the 64-bit version will be released?

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Hi Ackis,

 

I suggest that you subscribe to the Software Updates so that you receive an email whenever a new Update is released - go to that link, click on "Options" in the title-bar, select "Track this Topic" and then choose your email notification preference.

 

To be emailed whenever a new Defs file is released, go to the Definition Updates, click on "Options" in the title-bar, select "Subscribe to this forum" and again, choose your email notification preference.

 

Finally, there is the Lavasoft News Forum - you may subscribe to the monthly newsletter here.

 

Regards,

 

Spike

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